![]() Now this wasn't even the worst part of it but his total lack of defense this series was abused. He went from 22/4/5 on okay defense to being a total liability in the finals. Likely one of the worst fall offs we've ever seen. This one is harder to compare because again Shaq was on a decline but he was also benched in this same finals serious and his numbers were very poor if it wasn't for D.Wade I'm sure he'd get a lot more flack for it. Shaq put up 14/10/2 on 60% from the field but the big one was 30% from the FT line. But even compared to his regular season stats that season he really took a drop. Now I will say, Shaq at this time was no prime Shaq. Speaking of Shaq, he's got a melt down of his own. Sadly he only got 17 of those shots a game compared to Kobes 22 almost 23. Shaq for instance was 27/11/3 in that finals with 63% from the field. He was the 2nd focus and he chucked away a finals. Kobe wasn't even the main focus of that detroit defense either. You might see that stat line and think "Okay, that's pretty comparable to Lebron's right? Sure, if you ignore the fact that Kobe shot just 38% from the field and 18% from 3. Now lets take a look at some other stats from all time greats. Obviously these numbers don't do it fully as Lebron just became passive he didn't really play "bad" More-so as he just didn't take over. 18/7/7 a game in 6 games on 48% from the field. Let me point you to some other superstar meltdowns that were worse OBJECTIVELY just in the finals this isn't even all playoffs.įor reminder this was Lebron's stat line in 2011. but it is by no means even CLOSE to the worst finals performances we've seen by super stars in the finals. Sure was it bad compared to Lebron standards? Yes, that's obvious. This isn't even the worst superstar meltdown in the finals. People saying it's the worst melt down by a superstar in the finals is so blown out of the water it hurts. The 2011 Lebron James finals vs the Mavs is extremely overrated as a melt down. ![]() I mean, maybe this take isn't as crazy as it used to be but hear me out. We check every one, whether it seems like we do or not. Please report content that breaks the rules. If you have any questions or concerns, don’t hesitate to contact us via modmail. GOAT, all-time, top 10, or player A vs B posts of all kinds will be removed. Player ranking and comparisons are not permitted. The minimum number of characters needed for a post to not be filtered is 350 characters. Post enough content to provide a jumping-off point. Posts essentially equivalent to “Thoughts?” or “Discuss” are low effort and those posts will be removed. A leading question can be effective, but if you wish to discuss a stance, make it clear where you stand so commenters can address that directly. Asking a well-defined question is a good way to start. Present descriptive, clear, and concise titles. For top-level comments, a character minimum of 75 is in place. Most arguments cannot be deconstructed in one sentence. Accept and acknowledge if you cannot maintain your original argument. This includes your youtube video, website, blog, or twitter.Īttack the argument, not the person. Don't downvote just because you disagree. Vote based on whether the post or comment appears to meet the standards for quality you expect from a discussion subreddit. Unless it is undeniable fact, the burden of proof falls upon the person making the claim. Basketball Reference), and your own statistical analyses should be provided when it strengthens your point. Proofs from trusted NBA reporters, databases (e.g. Support claims with substantiated arguments. ![]() ![]() Low effort content, including jokes, memes, fanbase attacks, or shitposts will be removed as the moderators see fit. This subreddit is for high quality discussion of the NBA, past, present, and near future. Speak with others how you would like to be spoken with. Please do not refer mockingly to /r/nba and its users. Do not name call, condescend, or belittle others. This subreddit is for serious, high-quality NBA discussion.
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